Is it advisable to avoid purchasing a vehicle that was manufactured in 2010 or earlier?

[Hypabl]

To what extent is there a stigma attached to the older automobiles that lack frame strengthening before to 2011? I am aware that there have been discussions about the possibility of frame cracking difficulties. However, I would appreciate receiving comments that takes into account the additional time that has passed since the vehicles have been in use.

I am now looking to purchase a first-generation V10 and have came across many options. Some are older, while others are newer. I am uncertain about whether or not I should consider purchasing an older model due to concerns about potential frame fractures. Due to my economic constraints, I will likely have to purchase a used vehicle with high mileage, unless I choose to buy an automatic automobile, which I am strongly trying to avoid.

To provide more background, I want to purchase the automobile for the purpose of driving and deriving pleasure from it. While I do hope that it maintains its worth in the future, my main focus at the moment is not on reselling it. As an additional hypothetical question for additional credit, assuming all other factors are the same, would you prefer a 2012 model with a little blemish on its history report or a 2010 model with no negative history?

As a newcomer to the Exotic market, I want to gather as much information as possible before becoming involved.

[MutanX]

I have been an active member of this site for a considerable duration, and I have noticed that the most often discussed topics are on shocks, wheel upgrades, exhaust modifications, and travel or work anecdotes.

In my opinion, the level of drama connected with the pre-2011 subframe is overstated. Over the last several years, I have had a 2008 model. Due to the negative reputation associated with it, I have sometimes removed the liners from the front trunk (frunk) to inspect for any cracks, especially after encountering significant potholes. One may expect to see several discussions about insurance companies declaring an Audi R8 as a complete loss due to a subframe crack, yet such conversations are surprisingly rare.

When it comes to history, always choose the version that is accurate and free from any distortions or biases. It is advisable to avoid purchasing rebuilt automobiles unless you have knowledge of their history and are aware of the specific repairs that have been carried out on them. This is because there may be hidden faults inside the car that are not easily discernible. Greater transparency from the vendor is undoubtedly advantageous for you.

[Hypabl]

I was anticipating communication from you on this matter. I have seen your name prominently featured across the forum. Rebuilt vehicles are completely unacceptable to me, thus I insist on a clean title as a necessity. However, I am undecided about minor accidents, since I recently incurred some costs while selling one of my existing cars.

I share the same perspective on the tendency for incidents like this to be exaggerated online. However, I am curious to know if this problem has intensified with time or not. I agree that if it were a prevalent problem, one would expect it to manifest more often on this platform.

I value the feedback. My intention is to persistently search for the optimal opportunity. I will refrain from disposing of an older vehicle solely based on this apprehension. I will certainly develop a routine of inspecting the area behind the frunk as I gaze.

[HolyRoach]

I agree with MutanX  viewpoint that frame fractures are often exaggerated, but, it is still prudent to get photographs of the frame while making a purchase. I recommend exercising caution when driving over potholes and refraining from exceeding speeds of 80 mph while encountering a pothole, particularly if you are driving an older vehicle.

[CleverPixel]

No, the frame is not worth it. The danger of mental fixation on a problem is occupying your mind without any cost or effort.

[Accomis]

I purchased a 2010 vehicle and had the strengthening work carried out by Avant Garde Xotics in Van Nuys, California. They performed an exceptional job and completed it within a 24-hour timeframe, for just $1100. Completely valuable for ensuring peace of mind. However, it is necessary to choose a suitable establishment that has the capability to do Tungsten Inert Gas (TIG) welding on aluminium.

[Ziinsig]

In addition, I had a 2010 model and had the frame reinforcement brackets retrofitted. However, instead of opting for welding, I chose to use aerospace glue. This was done just for the sake of tranquilly and no other motive. As previously said, the issue of frame cracking is greatly exaggerated.

[Tactical]

While attempting to choose a year, I perused many publications.

 

Definitive Guide to Audi R8 Front Frame Cracking and Reinforcement Plates for Model Years 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 – Carlton Bale

[depofly]

Frame fractures may occur, although they are quite uncommon. A total of 13,500 R8s were produced by Audi before they strengthened the frame. It is estimated that less than 100 vehicles had frame cracks, which accounts for less than 1% of the total. The majority (but not all) of autos with frame cracks were involved in accidents. While this topic often induces terror in many individuals, I would like to share my opinions on the matter: Prior to purchasing, ensure that the frame is free from any cracks. Subsequently, insurance will provide coverage for the automobile as a complete loss in the event of frame cracking. Several individuals have spent a significant amount of money (over $4,000) to strengthen the frame, but I strongly advise against doing so. While it is improbable that your frame will develop cracks, if you reinforce it and it subsequently cracks or if you are involved in an accident where you are at fault, your insurance company (whether it is your own or the opposing party's) may refuse to provide coverage or hold you responsible for modifying an original equipment manufacturer (OEM) component, even if the modification was carried out by an authorised Audi repair centre. Strengthening the frame necessitates the use of aluminium welding, which naturally carries a significant risk of weakening the surrounding aluminium. To avoid any financial repercussions in case of a crack, it is advisable to make sure that your automobile is adequately insured, rather than having to pay for a repair that may be disputed by your insurance company later on. If you anticipate experiencing insomnia due to this matter, I would recommend only purchasing a vehicle manufactured in 2011 or later. I trust that this information is beneficial.

[MutanX]

Those are reliable and substantial data points. Thank you for sharing it and confirming my convictions.

However, I advise you, OP, not to worry excessively and choose a vehicle that you really like. Nevertheless, it is crucial to ensure that the pre-purchase inspection (PPI) thoroughly examines the subframe for any potential damage resulting from an unreported accident.

[Notef]

While conducting my search, I neglected to consider automobiles that did not have the reinforcement plate installed by Audi. Considering that the original poster (OP) is interested in purchasing a V10, similar to my own preference, this would only exclude half of the 2010 model year options. I think that vehicles manufactured from November 2009 onwards were equipped with a reinforcement plate. However, I cannot guarantee this information since it is based on my recollection of requesting vendors to provide a photograph of the label located in the door jam of 2010 automobiles. The years 2011-2015 are all acceptable.

[MagicPod]

 

[Lovelyas]

Furthermore, it is important to note that not all vehicles manufactured in 2010 lacked reinforcements. Specifically, cars produced in April or May of that year were known to have these reinforcements. As an example, I personally own a 2010 R8 with factory reinforcements, which was produced in May. I inspected the plastics and other components to confirm their condition at the time of purchase.

[Micobe]

Purchase the highest quality specimen that is within your financial means.